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GLM-5.2's post-RMSNorm 512-dim kv_c latent spans ~240× across layers
(max_abs 0.02→5.2). At the writer's default outer scale of 1.0, shallow
layers quantize with E4M3-subnormal block scales; the error is amplified
downstream. s_l = max_abs(kv_c_normed)/(6·448) puts every layer's largest
block scale at the top of the E4M3 range.

Adds kv-scales/glm52-nvfp4-nf3-hybrid_mla_outer_scales_v1.json
(format nvfp4_ds_mla_outer_scale_v1; captured on
madeby561/GLM-5.2-MXFP8-NVFP4-NF3-Hybrid, wikitext-2 2048-ctx TP4, per-rank
agreement checked, per-layer envelope with an independent capture of the same
base for shallow-layer headroom; max_abs retained for audit) and a
default-off VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE knob in serve-glm52.sh.

KLD (rtx6kpro glm52-kld-evaluation protocol, 5 fresh boots each, 4×96GB):

KV config mean ± sd max ctx
fp8_ds_mla 0.1263 ± 0.0030 373k
nvfp4 + scales, bf16 rope 0.1345 ± 0.0035 550k
nvfp4 + scales, fp8 rope 0.1356 ± 0.0054 600k+
nvfp4, no scales, bf16 rope 0.158 550k
nvfp4, no scales, fp8 rope 0.168 600k+

Requires a b12x build with the latent_scale identity/dynamic cache fact
(local-inference-lab/sparkinfer#52) or a one-time compile-cache clear when first enabling.

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  • New Features

    • Added calibrated per-layer outer-scale support for GLM-5.2 NVFP4 MLA KV caching.
    • Added a calibration artifact containing scale values and provenance metadata.
    • Added configuration to enable scales through VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE.
  • Documentation

    • Added setup instructions, usage examples, evaluation results, file-format details, and cache invalidation guidance.

Per-layer outer-scale calibration for nvfp4_ds_mla KV
(VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE, format v1) with an explicit default-off knob
in serve-glm52.sh. Collapses the NVFP4-vs-FP8 KV KLD gap to ~+0.008-0.009
(0.1345/0.1356 vs 0.1263, 5 fresh boots each, rtx6kpro protocol) while
raising max context from 373k to 550k/600k+ on 4x96GB.

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Adds GLM-5.2 NVFP4 MLA KV outer-scale calibration data, documents its format and usage, and exports a serving-script environment variable for enabling the calibrated scales.

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MLA outer-scale calibration

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Adds per-layer nvfp4_ds_mla_outer_scale_v1 maxima and scales, documents calibration metadata, measured results, usage, and cache invalidation requirements, and exports VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE with an empty default.

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Minor: register VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE in envs.py to silence startup warning

When the scales file is set, vLLM logs:

WARNING [envs.py:2294] Unknown vLLM environment variable detected: VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE

This is cosmetic onlymla.py reads the var via os.getenv() directly, so it works fine. But it trips vLLM's env-var whitelist check in envs.py because the var isn't registered there.

Fix — add it to the environment_variables dict in vllm/envs.py, next to the other VLLM_B12X_MLA_CKV_GATHER_* knobs (around line 1167):

    "VLLM_B12X_MLA_CKV_GATHER_MAX_TOKENS": lambda: int(
        os.getenv("VLLM_B12X_MLA_CKV_GATHER_MAX_TOKENS", "524288")
    ),
    # Path to a nvfp4_ds_mla_outer_scale_v1 JSON file of per-layer outer
    # scales for the NVFP4 MLA KV cache writer.  Empty/unset => s_l=1.0
    # (identity, prior behavior).  Loaded by mla.py; inert unless
    # kv_cache_dtype=nvfp4_ds_mla and attention_backend=B12X_MLA_SPARSE.
    "VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE": lambda: os.getenv(
        "VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE", ""
    ),
    "VLLM_MINIMAX_M3_ENABLE_TORCH_COMPILE": lambda: bool(
        int(os.getenv("VLLM_MINIMAX_M3_ENABLE_TORCH_COMPILE", "0"))
    ),

And the matching TYPE_CHECKING entry (around line 80, after VLLM_B12X_MLA_CKV_GATHER_MAX_TOKENS):

    VLLM_B12X_MLA_CKV_GATHER_MAX_TOKENS: int = 524288
    VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE: str | None = None

The empty-string default matches mla.py's os.getenv(_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_ENV, "") so the loader's .strip() guard works the same way.

Review and comment by madeby561/GLM-5.2-MXFP8-NVFP4-NF3-Hybrid -- with the outer scales enabled btw 😉 for self-improvement

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I think the calibrated values should be owned by the checkpoint, not by the
vLLM source tree.

These 78 values are calibration metadata for one exact set of model weights
and one KV format (nvfp4_ds_mla). Shipping
glm52-nvfp4-nf3-hybrid_mla_outer_scales_v1.json in vLLM couples a generic
runtime to a specific model revision and makes it too easy to apply the file to
the wrong checkpoint. It also means that updating the checkpoint does not
automatically update its scales.

Suggested rework:

  1. Move the calibrated values and their provenance to
    madeby561/GLM-5.2-MXFP8-NVFP4-NF3-Hybrid.
  2. Prefer storing the 78 scalars directly in a versioned config.json field;
    they are small enough that this avoids sidecar discovery/download problems.
    A sidecar is also acceptable, but config.json must reference it and the
    model loader must resolve/download it relative to the selected model
    revision.
  3. Keep only generic support in vLLM: parse the checkpoint metadata, validate
    the format/layer count/latent dimension/finite positive values, and expose
    the per-layer value to the existing writer/reader path.
  4. Retain VLLM_NVFP4_MLA_SCALES_FILE only as an explicit experimental or
    operator override. Register it in vllm/envs.py; it currently produces an
    unknown-environment warning and can hard-fail under strict environment
    validation.
  5. Log whether scales came from checkpoint metadata, an explicit override, or
    the identity default. An explicit override should take precedence.
  6. Add tests for checkpoint auto-loading, override precedence, identity when
    metadata is absent, malformed/wrong-length metadata, and the uncalibrated
    draft layer remaining at identity.

The resulting ownership should be:

  • checkpoint: values, calibration provenance, format version, and the model
    revision to which they apply;
  • vLLM: generic schema/loader/validation and runtime application;
  • environment override: debugging and experiments only.

This also needs the compile-cache correctness fix from
local-inference-lab/sparkinfer#52 before it is safe with persistent caches.
Without that fix, a kernel compiled for identity scale can be reused for a
non-identity layer and silently omit the restore multiply.

I would not merge the model-specific JSON into vLLM in its current location.

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