Ethereum Core Devs Meeting 96 Agenda

[Souptacular]

Ethereum Core Devs Meeting 96 Agenda

• Meeting Date/Time: Friday 18 September 2020, 14:00 UTC
• Meeting Duration 1.5 hours
• YouTube Live Stream

Agenda

1. EIP & Upgrades Updates
   a. YOLO / YOLOv2 & Berlin state tests update
   b. Breakout room feedback
2. EIP Discussion
   a. EIP-1057 Next Steps.
   b. EIP- BLS12-381 curve operations & BLS12-377 curve operations
   c. Account Abstraction Update [see this explainer]
   d. EIP-2929: Gas cost increases for state access opcodes
   e. EVM 384 Update
   f. EIP-2315 Simple Subroutines for the EVM
3. EIP-1559 Update

Next call: October 2nd, 2020 14:00 UTC

[sherlock-shi-x]

Does anyone notice the ASIC risky for ethash?

INNOSILICON offers new A10pro+ miner which has params: 720MH / 6G graphics memory / 1300w, and it will enter the market in Dec. with around 20T total hashrate at least.

So I am worry about the process of EIP-1057 and the chance for activating ProgPOW oneday

[gcolvin]

We didn't get to EIP-1057 last week, so it remains on the agenda. ethereum/EIPs#2894

[gcolvin]

I'm not sure -- perhaps @AndreaLanfranchi does -- but I think those units will not long survive DAG growth.

[gcolvin]

I think I'm wrong @haihongS. Those units might last on Ethash into 2024. https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size

[sherlock-shi-x]

yeah, very sad to hear this, @gcolvin -- and we don't expect too much about the schedule of ETH2.0 :)

[CryptoBlockchainTechnologies]

We didn't get to EIP-1057 last week, so it remains on the agenda. ethereum/EIPs#2894

@Souptacular can we please get this added to the agenda

[CryptoBlockchainTechnologies]

We didn't get to EIP-1057 last week, so it remains on the agenda. ethereum/EIPs#2894

This is a good idea except when, not if Ethereum is attacked prior to POS switch over, it will be so big and devistating that flipping a switch will already be too late. With the current public miners (we dont see the non public ones that are exteremely efficient) they will soon have 60% of the hash going into the 4GB drop off. This would be the best time IMO to attack the network. Is probably why Bitmain has not released a new miner.

[prestwich]

@Souptacular I'd love to get some schedule time to talk about how Celo can contribute to ethereum/EIPs#2537 and ethereum/EIPs#2539

[SamWilsn]

We've put together a bit of an explainer for account abstraction (EIP-2938) if anyone wants a bit more background before the call.

https://hackmd.io/@SamWilsn/ryhxoGp4D

[axic]

If there is time I would like to give an update on evm384.

[Souptacular]

@prestwich @SamWilsn @axic added to the agenda.

@axic: Do you have a URL to 384 we can use?

[holgerd77]

@Souptacular this can also be found on google, so I think it's safe to reference without explicit permission from Alex: https://notes.ethereum.org/@axic/evm384

Update: was the wrong document, sorry @axic, see comment below.

(cc @axic on googling this there is actually another version with a -preview postfix as top result which seems to be outdated, maybe it's worth to remove one of the documents to not have two concurrent versions floating around)

Also some...

Yolo v2 Update for EthereumJS

(can't join the call today). We're done with some necessary technical preparation to separate EIP and hardfork logic in the EthereumJS VM (essentially the VM can now also activate dedicated EIPs and not just a dedicated hardfork as some fixed set of EIPs). This base work provides the ground for a Yolo v2 integration. A big VM v5 release is planned for within the next 2-4 weeks.

Here is our Yolo v2 tracking issue, EIP-2315 (subroutines) and EIP-2537 (BLS precompiles) are ready and merged, EIP-2929 (state access gas cost increases) is currently in the works. All EIPs are planned to ship with v5.

We are also working hard to integrate the VM into our lately resumed client implementation, so that we can hopefully join the testnet directly within a couple of weeks. Don't take this as an official announcement yet though. 😄

[shamatar]

EIP-2929 mentions an exception for calls to precompiles, but does not specify whether this exception is a current value or some new value, so I'd like to return EIP-2048 back to schedule for Berlin for consistency.

[axic]

@holgerd77 that is actually the update from last time :)

@Souptacular the new document is at https://notes.ethereum.org/@poemm/evm384-interface-update