diff --git a/deltachat-jsonrpc/src/api.rs b/deltachat-jsonrpc/src/api.rs
index e70c2771b8..da3cb9db8b 100644
--- a/deltachat-jsonrpc/src/api.rs
+++ b/deltachat-jsonrpc/src/api.rs
@@ -1106,9 +1106,6 @@ impl CommandApi {
     /// because the word "channel" already appears a lot in the code,
     /// which would make it hard to grep for it.
     ///
-    /// After creation, the chat contains no recipients and is in _unpromoted_ state;
-    /// see [`CommandApi::create_group_chat`] for more information on the unpromoted state.
-    ///
     /// Returns the created chat's id.
     async fn create_broadcast(&self, account_id: u32, chat_name: String) -> Result<u32> {
         let ctx = self.get_context(account_id).await?;
diff --git a/deltachat-rpc-client/src/deltachat_rpc_client/account.py b/deltachat-rpc-client/src/deltachat_rpc_client/account.py
index db24c8ff2b..8308291cc9 100644
--- a/deltachat-rpc-client/src/deltachat_rpc_client/account.py
+++ b/deltachat-rpc-client/src/deltachat_rpc_client/account.py
@@ -340,9 +340,6 @@ def create_broadcast(self, name: str) -> Chat:
         because the word "channel" already appears a lot in the code,
         which would make it hard to grep for it.
 
-        After creation, the chat contains no recipients and is in _unpromoted_ state;
-        see `create_group()` for more information on the unpromoted state.
-
         Returns the created chat.
         """
         return Chat(self, self._rpc.create_broadcast(self.id, name))
diff --git a/src/chat.rs b/src/chat.rs
index 11197d2616..e9635c562a 100644
--- a/src/chat.rs
+++ b/src/chat.rs
@@ -1782,9 +1782,7 @@ impl Chat {
                 );
                 bail!("Cannot set message, contact for {} not found.", self.id);
             }
-        } else if matches!(self.typ, Chattype::Group | Chattype::OutBroadcast)
-            && self.param.get_int(Param::Unpromoted).unwrap_or_default() == 1
-        {
+        } else if self.param.get_int(Param::Unpromoted).unwrap_or_default() == 1 {
             msg.param.set_int(Param::AttachChatAvatarAndDescription, 1);
             self.param
                 .remove(Param::Unpromoted)
@@ -3626,9 +3624,6 @@ pub(crate) async fn create_group_ex(
 /// because the word "channel" already appears a lot in the code,
 /// which would make it hard to grep for it.
 ///
-/// After creation, the chat contains no recipients and is in _unpromoted_ state;
-/// see [`create_group`] for more information on the unpromoted state.
-///
 /// Returns the created chat's id.
 pub async fn create_broadcast(context: &Context, chat_name: String) -> Result<ChatId> {
     let grpid = create_id();
@@ -3660,17 +3655,20 @@ pub(crate) async fn create_out_broadcast_ex(
             |row| row.get(0),
         )?;
         ensure!(cnt == 0, "{cnt} chats exist with grpid {grpid}");
+        let mut params: Params = Params::new();
+        params.update_timestamp(Param::GroupNameTimestamp, time())?;
 
         t.execute(
             "INSERT INTO chats
-            (type, name, name_normalized, grpid, created_timestamp)
-            VALUES(?, ?, ?, ?, ?)",
+            (type, name, name_normalized, grpid, created_timestamp, param)
+            VALUES(?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?)",
             (
                 Chattype::OutBroadcast,
                 &chat_name,
                 normalize_text(&chat_name),
                 &grpid,
                 timestamp,
+                params.to_string(),
             ),
         )?;
         let chat_id = ChatId::new(t.last_insert_rowid().try_into()?);
diff --git a/src/chat/chat_tests.rs b/src/chat/chat_tests.rs
index 813d290124..381a6e9d08 100644
--- a/src/chat/chat_tests.rs
+++ b/src/chat/chat_tests.rs
@@ -9,6 +9,7 @@ use crate::headerdef::HeaderDef;
 use crate::imex::{ImexMode, has_backup, imex};
 use crate::message::{Message, MessengerMessage, delete_msgs};
 use crate::mimeparser::{self, MimeMessage};
+use crate::qr::{Qr, check_qr};
 use crate::receive_imf::receive_imf;
 use crate::securejoin::{get_securejoin_qr, join_securejoin};
 use crate::test_utils;
@@ -2922,10 +2923,24 @@ async fn test_broadcast_change_name() -> Result<()> {
     let fiona = &tcm.fiona().await;
 
     let broadcast_id = create_broadcast(alice, "Channel".to_string()).await?;
-    let qr = get_securejoin_qr(alice, Some(broadcast_id)).await.unwrap();
+    let mut qr = get_securejoin_qr(alice, Some(broadcast_id)).await.unwrap();
+    // Something goes wrong with the title, e.g. maybe it gets ellipsized
+    // Note that the title always comes at the end for human readability
+    qr += "+modified+title";
+
+    {
+        tcm.section("Alice invites Bob to her channel");
+        let Qr::AskJoinBroadcast { name, .. } = check_qr(bob, &qr).await? else {
+            panic!();
+        };
+        assert_eq!(name, "Channel modified title");
+
+        // The channel's name gets fixed after actually joining the channel:
+        let bob_chat_id = tcm.exec_securejoin_qr(bob, alice, &qr).await;
+        let bob_chat = Chat::load_from_db(bob, bob_chat_id).await?;
+        assert_eq!(bob_chat.name, "Channel");
+    }
 
-    tcm.section("Alice invites Bob to her channel");
-    tcm.exec_securejoin_qr(bob, alice, &qr).await;
     tcm.section("Alice invites Fiona to her channel");
     tcm.exec_securejoin_qr(fiona, alice, &qr).await;